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Post by eastrock on Oct 10, 2008 19:40:01 GMT
Is anyone else fed up of the bias reporting of the BBC? Tonight's 60 second update - The Chief Minister is trying to bridge relations with Guernsey after " A Jersey Minister" made comments about Landesbanki, Suggesting that it would not of been allowed to set up in Jersey. That Jersey Minister, as many of us know, is none other than Mr Philip Ozouf. So why not say so? Could it have anything to do with the elections? Enough is enough. If you see or read anything that you consider to be bias reporting, post it here. Time, date, location. And I will write to the BBC in the UK and let them know what is going on over here. The same is said for the JEP. Time to write to the UK owners. Let them know that there is a boycott of the Friday edition as a protest to their bias reporting. Time to put stop this once and for good. A more reliable source this time: www5.channelonline.tv/news/templates/jerseynews2.aspx?articleid=16924&zoneid=1
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Post by Bea on Oct 10, 2008 19:56:57 GMT
You are going to have a full time job on your hands :-) Compare the news of a couple of days ago ,when according to our leaders all was well in the garden of Eden .
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Post by gagged on Oct 11, 2008 11:45:05 GMT
It speaks volumes when CTV are more credible than the BBC. I think it is fair to say all our local media are in the pockets of our ruling elite, it's only the depth that differs.
What I would like to know is, if the local BBC are that under recourced and strapped for cash, they can't do any investigative journalism. Howcome they are not so under recourced they can send TWO "Journalists" to go and report on a cricket team, who have just embarrased Jersey internationally, all the way to Tanzania?
Something stinks about all this.
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Post by nickpalmer on Oct 11, 2008 18:36:23 GMT
Is anyone else fed up of the bias reporting of the BBC? The same is said for the JEP. Time to write to the UK owners. Let them know that there is a boycott of the Friday edition as a protest to their bias reporting. In today's J.E.P. they have, on pages 16-17 "Who stands for what". Which purports to give a guide to "Senatorial platforms and promises". They give the reader a very wrong impression of my position by reporting that I "want(s) capital gains tax on residential property". This is incorrect. I have said, in answer to questions about replacing GST with something else, that one option would be to tax property SPECULATION i.e. the buying and rapid selling or the development of, then early selling of, property primarily to make money. Any capital gains tax would be tapered off completely over, say, 10-20 years, in order not to penalise people who actually live in their property. The taper would fall off rapidly so that the earlier one sold one's property for non-emergency or social reasons, the more tax would be paid.
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Post by generationx on Oct 11, 2008 20:16:06 GMT
I am shocked and sorry (but not altogether surprised) to hear that the JEP have (deliberately) made an error regarding your manifesto Nick. I wonder if they have also made any errors of omission with their favorite candidates.
Sounds abit Jersey Establishment Party to me.
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Post by markforskitt on Oct 11, 2008 20:44:42 GMT
They have made a few errors, but it's the omissions and curtailments that really infuriate me. It is hard enough to say anything meaningful in 3 minutes about any serious subject that needs any explanation. Its the same with questions. Answers are reduced to a single sentence that really doesn't convey the sense of what was said, or misses crucial caveats. And of course they only cover one , perhaps two questions in each hustings. out of 6 asked. You would never know from reading the JEP that the Bailiff's Liberation Day speech has come up at least twice, if not thrice - never reported.
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Post by eastrock on Oct 11, 2008 20:45:39 GMT
Demand that an apology be printed on Monday.
From what I have heard, a few candidates are unhappy with the JEP reporting of their answers to questions put to them at hustings.
Can anyone tell me WHY the JEP or the BBC continue with this bias reporting? What do they hope to gain?
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Post by Bea on Oct 11, 2008 21:29:59 GMT
well they are losing any form of credibility they might have ever had . In todays edition we have a review of the Trinity hustings ,in which the author commented and named that two Establishment candidates went down the best with the audience. From my observation of the night in question,that was certainly not the case . In fact for most of the hustings the sitting states members have taken a very rough ride ,and have come in for a lot of heckling and disbelieve from the audiences at what they churn out .
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Post by Bea on Oct 11, 2008 21:35:33 GMT
They tend to put the most insignificant question of the night in i.e Bus services . Guess for those who do have a poor services it is of concern ,but how little is mentioned of the Bailiff issue and the Child abuse investigation question has surfaced and been reported on .
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Post by eastrock on Oct 11, 2008 22:01:36 GMT
Again, I ask the question, why? If we can understand this, then we have a better chance of defeating it.
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Post by gagged on Oct 12, 2008 11:45:24 GMT
Ryan has been ever so quiet just of late. Might I suggest Ryan that you encourage your superiors to come on here, or any blog or forum, to answer some of these questions and give us, the license fee payers some kind of explanations.
No disrespect to you but the local BBC are looking more and more like bed partners to our oligarchy, and in all fairness you have taken it upon yourself to try and explain on behalf of the BBC, and you're not doing a very good job of it mate.
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Post by ryanmorrison on Oct 13, 2008 9:19:42 GMT
I've asked if we've done anything on the Macon/Rankine story - I'll let you know. As for not mentioning Philip Ozouf - we have some very strict election guildelines (a cut down version was given to all candidates) that we have to stick to and its all about not giving undue prominence to any one candidate over another. This means that when there is a story that would normally involve going to a Minister for a response - and that Minister is standing - we go to his assistant minister (or in the case of Economic Development) and officer. If you have any questions/complaints about BBC Jersey's coverage PLEASE DO go to the BBC Complaints site www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/ - any complaint logged will go through the BBC Trust and BBC Management and BBC Jersey's Editors will be asked to explain and justify their decisions. More often than not the response to why we haven't covered a story is that we can't make it stand up legally - a recent story covered by Senator Syvret for example - we do have a journalist working on/researching that story and have for about a week - but as of yet we haven't been able to get official confirmation. I'm happy to explain anything I can - I joined the BBC because I believe it is a fair and impartial news organisation as well as being a strong media and entertainment company and I DO belive that same statement applies in Jersey. I DO NOT believe that the BBC in Jersey is bias - sometimes under funded and resourced but there is a dedicated team of very good journalists working here who belive in the BBC ethos of impartiality. It might not seem like that but I belive it to be true - if you think we've got ANYTHING wrong please DO USE the link I included above. I'm happy to talk to anybody about any specific issues (if I can answer them) by e-mail. ryan.morrison@bbc.co.uk - I don't speak for the BBC though and am just giving my view of things from inside the BBC. I do try and get responses from my bosses where possible and if I can will give you direct qoutes from them.
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Post by eastrock on Oct 13, 2008 9:48:52 GMT
Sorry Ryan, I'm confused. If Mr Ozouf ran over a child on Saturday, you would not be able to mention his name because he is currently looking to be re-elected? Or if he donated £1 million to the NSPCC the same would apply? Obviously we need to look elsewhere for our news coverage because ITV managed to have a word with Mr Ozouf: Jersey's Economic Development Minister Philip Ozouf told Channel Online: " I'm very strong relations in Jersey and Guernsey. I was on the phone to my opposite number in Guernsey yesterday and we need to work through the consequences of the global credit crisis together as joint jurisdictions and I think we're doing that. Comments have been taken out of context and that's unfortunate." www5.channelonline.tv/news/templates/jerseynews2.aspx?articleid=16924&zoneid=1
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Post by ryanmorrison on Oct 13, 2008 9:59:46 GMT
OK just got the line on this - we can, will and do speak to candidates that are also Ministers where there it is a ministerial matter and we need to speak to them.
BBC Radio Guernsey spoke to Senator Ozouf about the Landsbanki story.
A decision was taken by the team not to mention Philip Ozouf by name during the report earlier this week - but that doesn't mean we wouldn't interview him or mention him by name if necessary.
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Post by eastrock on Oct 13, 2008 10:14:45 GMT
May I ask, WHY the BBC did not mention Mr Ozouf by name on the 60 second update @ 19:59 on Friday 10th October?
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Post by ryanmorrison on Oct 13, 2008 10:21:07 GMT
I don't have an official answer but my guess would be over caution and sticking too closely to the election guidelines - I belive he was mentioned on radio (listened to by MANY MORE people than watch the 60 second update).
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Post by ryanmorrison on Oct 13, 2008 10:39:27 GMT
another blog
I've sent everything I've read online about the story to the newsroom.
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Post by gagged on Oct 13, 2008 15:47:06 GMT
another blog I've sent everything I've read online about the story to the newsroom. Do you think the news room are going to report the Macon/Rankine story before election day? This happened days ago and could have been reported by the BBC the next day because it was all over the internet. As far as I am aware you can only complain about iems that have been broadcast by the BBC, not what hasn't.
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Post by ryanmorrison on Oct 13, 2008 15:52:31 GMT
There is no reason why you can't use the complaints system to report a more generic complaint if you think we're not reporting stories, mis-reporting stories or acting bias in any way. bbc.co.uk/complaintsgagged - I've passed it to the newsroom - I run the BBC Jersey website and present a show about the islands music scene - yes I do write political stories (bbc.co.uk/jersey/the_states/) and will be writing our live election blog on Wednesday night - but I'm not in charge editorially and I don't write news stories. So I've passed the story on to Matthew Price (Assistant Editor/News Editor).
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Post by crappogre on Oct 13, 2008 17:40:39 GMT
Isn't the adjective version of the noun "bias" usually "biased"?
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