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Post by ryanmorrison on Nov 14, 2008 17:16:05 GMT
I've forwarded a link to them and asked them - I can't force anybody.
We've covered the howard league report extensively across our output with the two most listened to slots on our breakfast show dedicated to it this morning - the report published in full on bbc.co.uk/jersey and discussion/newslines throughout the day.
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Post by censored on Nov 14, 2008 18:22:42 GMT
I don't expect them to post on here. It will be too contencious for them. I just can't believe what is going on over here. It is like there is a news blackout on anything that shows Jersey and especially the authorities in a bad light. One has to ask why and who is pulling the strings on this? The poor excuses given so far would be laughable if they weren't so pathetic. No one I know thinks things are being reported in an impartial way. I do hope I am proved wrong but I am not holding my breath.
P.S. Ryan I think if you just gave a genuine reason as to why we have this state of affairs at least it would give you and your company some credibility. If your bosses could give us a realistic reason that would be even better. I for one am only interested in getting to the truth. All this smoke and mirrors is doing no one any favours. People perceive a cover up, end of, what are you going to do about it?
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Post by Bea on Nov 14, 2008 18:27:12 GMT
I've forwarded a link to them and asked them - I can't force anybody. We've covered the howard league report extensively across our output with the two most listened to slots on our breakfast show dedicated to it this morning - the report published in full on bbc.co.uk/jersey and discussion/newslines throughout the day. credit where credit is due,I listened to both reports this morning and thought they were pretty fair and balanced . Roger gave Perchard a good run for his money . Been busy rest of day ,so not had a chance to see how the other media outlet has covered the story. |
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Post by ryanmorrison on Nov 14, 2008 18:28:20 GMT
Just found out we will be looking at a different aspect of the report every morning next week in Jersey Today.
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Post by gagged on Nov 16, 2008 8:57:43 GMT
Just found out we will be looking at a different aspect of the report every morning next week in Jersey Today. Which is on when? 7 o'clock in the morning! That will be heard by a majority of your listeners! |
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Post by ryanmorrison on Nov 16, 2008 10:36:06 GMT
Yes I imagine it will be at around 7am - because that is when we get our biggest audience - by a VERY long way. Sounds odd I know but it is the peak slot - the same applies to Radio 4 as well. Their most important slot is at 7.05
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Post by crappogre on Nov 16, 2008 12:02:52 GMT
After what I head on Talkback this morning, I think we must admit that you can eventually get your say on the air. It was good! Well done to that Neil chap  |
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Post by censored on Nov 16, 2008 13:22:25 GMT
Yes I heard Talk Back as well. I don't think Christie Tucker is up to the job. She doesn't have the cutting edge required to get to the nitty gritty. She is too soft on the establishment figures, they run rings around her. Well done Neil for your comments. If the BBC want to be taken seriously over here they need to get a Paxman type figure in to cut out the waffle and press for questions to be answered. Another thing that gets on my nerves is her laugh it really undermines her credibility for this type of show. Sorry to be critical but we do have to pay for this type of thing. Others I know would use something worse than this to describe it.
Also Ryan could you press those in charge of the BBC to allow Mr.Syvret on for a Sunday morning Talk Back so that the anti-establishment view on things over here can be put forward. I am fed up with the way things are skewed to the establishment over here. The BBC is not the governments mouth piece it has its own means to get its message out. In my honest opinion I used to listen to Radio Tirana in the late 1970's and I don't see much difference between their reporting of things and our local BBC! Why has the local BBC been allowed to get to this level? The World Service at least tries to be impartial.
Local media is not here to censor news. They are here to report in an impartial manner and not be swayed by authority for whatever reason. Whether the news is good or bad is irrelevant it is all news and should be reported in the same manner.
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Post by gagged on Nov 16, 2008 13:40:02 GMT
So does that mean you ARE answering questions now Ryan? or is it only certain questions still?
Well tell you what just forward this onto DD or MP. ACT LIKE IMPARTIAL JOURNALISTS. Give the public what they want. That is Senator Syvret and Simon Bellwood on next Sunday's talkback.
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Post by censored on Nov 16, 2008 13:58:20 GMT
No chance of that, the local BBC will upset the establishment if they do that. Besides it will open a can of worms which they will not want to get involved in. Better for people to read it on Stuart Syvret's and Simon Bellwood's blogs me thinks. It is as if we are in "1984" and establishment think is the only one allowed. Spinning faster and faster, is this why time is speeding up to keep up with all this spin?
However in 4 years time everything may be ended, so only 4 more years of spin to go. Roll on 2012. Things sure as hell can't keep on as they are.
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Post by Bea on Nov 16, 2008 20:45:47 GMT
So does that mean you ARE answering questions now Ryan? or is it only certain questions still? Well tell you what just forward this onto DD or MP. ACT LIKE IMPARTIAL JOURNALISTS. Give the public what they want. That is Senator Syvret and Simon Bellwood on next Sunday's talkback. Saw an article in todays Sunday Times,and have found an online report on it . Appears the BBC generally has taken some flack for it's bias . www.biased-bbc.blogspot.com/Growing number of celebs are signing up, who will be the first over here to challenge paying the license fee? |
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Post by gagged on Nov 17, 2008 16:09:51 GMT
Has anybody read THE JEP OPINION today? They are just relentless with their assault on Lenny Harper.
It's not only what they are publishing it's what they're not publishing. What about the overseeing committee the states set up headed by Carol Canavan to over see Lenny Harpers investigation? Why did they never report anything untoward?
What about the THREE ACPO reports which infact praised Lenny Harper's investigation? What about the fact that the skull/coconut never being positively identified? meaning as much as it might be coconut is equally possible it is the remains of a childs skull.
The JEP, along with the local BBC and Channel television are a disgrace to journalism and a disgrace to this island.
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Post by censored on Nov 17, 2008 16:31:20 GMT
Everything is fine and dandy in the lah lah world of local media. Meanwhile back in the real world people are getting their news from people like Stuart Syvret.
Any news on Stuart being allowed on the BBC Sunday morning Talk Back show? Have the big whigs had their pow wow yet? Are they up for both sides of the story or have they been vetoed by outside forces?
Indeed are the fearless duo up for an outing into the virtual world of The Jersey Forum to answer their "captive punters" questions on Jersey and the BBC's role in the local news output?
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Post by ladyjane on Nov 17, 2008 16:31:52 GMT
Lenny Harper deserves the greatest respect, he gave the abused of Jersey the greatest gift of all, their voice to speak out about the abuse they suffered. Someone finally listened and acted on their disclosures, he gave them back a little of their self esteem. All this spin, the gullible press who will print anything to sell their newspapers etc., etc., is the States way of worming their way out of the writs that should start to fly.
The arrogance of some of the Jersey ministers is beyond belief they themselves ought to be taken to the court of human rights, no wonder they have not signed up to the EEC, they would have to comply to their rules, it would seem that they are already prepared to totally disregard the findings of the Howard League and continue to punish children "The Jersey Way" Children in Somalia have more rights than children in Jersey.
Yes the UK do fail children too however at least children in the UK have the right of redress, young offenders even at the age of 10 in Jersey have no rights whatsoever. Barbaric.
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Post by censored on Nov 17, 2008 16:48:29 GMT
I have to ask why all the attacks on Mr.Harper? They appear to be well co-ordinated. Are all the media reading from the same script? Who gains from this?
I ask people not to buy the JEP, save your money, hit those in charge where it hurts in the pocket. I have made a conscious decision not to buy it until it reports local events in an un-biased way. As things stand I don't think I will ever by it again.
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Post by crappogre on Nov 17, 2008 16:49:43 GMT
Front page attack on Lenny Harper today....... why?
It's all about the skull fragment / coconut with collagen.
Has Harper ever said it was definitely human skull? No. So why the fuss?
He was party to a whole load of victims testimony and other witness statements (that we don't know about) that led him to be fully expecting remains to be found. Any comments he may have made then must be considered in that context. Only someone with a personal axe to grind against LH would complain that further investigations didn't reveal anything more conclusive than burnt bone fragments, suspicious lime pits, cellars and stone bath exactly as described by victims, an odd amount of teeth which were reported as being in a state unlike how they'd be if they had come out naturally, etc., etc.
I don't know why I'm even bothering to reply in defence of LH, because the anti-LH views are so transparently obviously from people with personal axes to grind or madly pro-establishment with a blind refusal to examine the issues fairly and spot the bleedin obvious.
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Post by ladyjane on Nov 17, 2008 17:16:28 GMT
Warcup was recruited to discredit Harper, end of. The media, a friend yesterday showed me her copy of the Birmingham Sunday Paper, guess what, it was almost word for word the same as the rest of the Media. What it failed to tell you, Warcup was recruited on a promise that he would get the top job within a few months. He discredited Harper for personal gain. It would be a very interesting exercise, especially with child abuse being the news of the moment if someone from Jersey contacted Radio 5 live, they have very interesting phone in programmes, which in the main are unbiased, usually 9 in the morning or after 10 in the evening.
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Post by censored on Nov 17, 2008 17:54:58 GMT
It appears he is in the top spot already. Has he done 3 months in post yet? People I have spoken to have come to the same conclusions as above. It is very interesting what you can learn on line and through others. It is very different from what is put out in the local media. I was hoping for justice for those affected. It appeared things were going in that direction but now who knows?
I myself don't trust many authority figures. Unfortunately in today's world spin is number one. You get it in all walks of life. Politicians are well know for it as are management and the media. I believe vested interests behind the scences world wide are deliberately keeping the masses in the dark, whether it is the war on terror, climate change or mass extinctions, or things from outer space. I find it amazing that nothing is really mentioned about meteorites and yet one of 100 meters across or more would wipe out life on earth in a very short time. I think we are in very troubled and dangerous times but the troubles and the dangers are not what we are being led to believe. We are deliberately being mislead globally. I will leave it there.
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Post by gagged on Nov 17, 2008 18:13:07 GMT
Still no word from our local BBC chaps then? Don't ask Ryan about it incase he throws the toys out of the pram.
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Post by censored on Nov 17, 2008 18:17:28 GMT
Ryan is just a pawn in the scheme of things. It isn't really his fault. He is told what to say and do by his bosses. If he were to say anything out of line they could sack him. Many have said to me that there is a climate of fear over here that is why they keep quiet for fear of drawing attention to themselves.
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