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Post by gagged on Nov 17, 2008 18:36:27 GMT
Censored. I agree with you, but in all fairness Ryan was all too quick to answer questions about the BBC not that long ago. As soon as some real questions started coming his way he spat the dummy out. We must remember he is a proffessional BBC journalist and one would expect a bit better than that. Also we (the licence fee payer) pay his wages.
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Post by ryanmorrison on Nov 17, 2008 22:00:21 GMT
Yes I'm a BBC Journalist but I'm not payed to answer questions on blogs - I did it originally because I was trying to be helpful.
The BBC has its own complaints department and a team of people responsible for answering questions like this - there is also and Editor and Assistant Editor at BBC Radio Jersey who are payed a lot more than me who are responsible for answering questions.
If you want an answer or a response to a question you're best bet would be to e-mail matthew.price@bbc.co.uk or denzil.dudley.01@bbc.co.uk.
I write for bbc.co.uk/jersey and that's really the only area of our output I know about - if you've got a question about the website I'll try my best to answer it.
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Post by crappogre on Nov 18, 2008 9:48:38 GMT
Gagged, I can see your point of view but please treat Ryan's presence here as personal one, not as an official BBC spokesman. He is under no obligation at all to answer questions here, so we should be grateful when he comments at all and gives us insights into where he works.
No matter how much we are all disappointed sometimes with the local media management, this isn't the time and place to hound someone who is here as a guest.
Thanks
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Post by linda on Nov 18, 2008 9:58:04 GMT
Yes I'm a BBC Journalist but I'm not payed to answer questions on blogs - I did it originally because I was trying to be helpful. The BBC has its own complaints department and a team of people responsible for answering questions like this - there is also and Editor and Assistant Editor at BBC Radio Jersey who are payed a lot more than me who are responsible for answering questions. If you want an answer or a response to a question you're best bet would be to e-mail matthew.price@bbc.co.uk or denzil.dudley.01@bbc.co.uk. I write for bbc.co.uk/jersey and that's really the only area of our output I know about - if you've got a question about the website I'll try my best to answer it. I don't blame you personally Ryan for any of the bias reporting that has been going on, in fact I feel sorry for local journalists because their hands are so obviously tied. If I have a complaint I send it to the relevant party, namely the main BBC complaints website, in fact I have just done that, ;)l, here is the link if anyone wants to read my complaint. lcorby.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/bias-bbc-reporting-in-jersey-channel-islands-official-complaint/I would suggest that anyone who has a complaint does the same thing ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) In this way we can help those journalists in the island who must be sick to death of being dictated to as to what and how they can report on issues in the island, as we are of reading the bias reports over which I strongly suspect individual journalists do not have much control personally. In the current banana republic regime any journalist not confirming to the party line wouldn't in my opinion be able to eat for their article rejections. As I have said previously what it needs is a whistle blower reporter, and what Jersey reporter is going to be that brave and put their neck on the chopping block, just look at how Simon Bellwood and Stuart Syvret got sacked for being honest and trying to do the right thing. Time will tell, and for some brave reporter there is a bestselling book in this for them! Which like my autobiography would probably be unofficially blacklisted in the island, ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png) and of course the due to be released books by Jersey abuse survivor’s published by Harpers & Collins.
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Post by gagged on Nov 18, 2008 11:21:43 GMT
Any comments Denzil or Matthew?
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Post by gagged on Nov 18, 2008 16:39:19 GMT
Linda I have submitted a complaint to the bbc complaint department. I'll wait 'til I get a reply and will publish all when and if I do.
If there is anybody else who's not happy with the bbc over here, sending a complaint in would help. The more complaints they get, the more likely they are going to do something about it.
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Post by crappogre on Nov 19, 2008 14:26:41 GMT
Time for a pop at the rag now ....... (although none of you buy it?!)
Their questions and answers features to would-be deputies are a nightmare to follow, a complete waste of two pages. Unless you can memorise two dozen questions and keep them in mind while looking down numerous columns of answers, you have to flit backwards and forwards hundreds of times to cross-reference each Yes or No answer to the original question!
Why couldn't they put the whole lot in a table so we could read it off along a line and have a chance to see who believes what? Or do it question by question rather than all the answers per candidate in one futile mess?
The way they've done it is hopeless. Almost as if they don't want us to read it? ;D
For example, at first glance Ms Ringsdore appears to be well up the Ozouf Passage, but without flicking backwards and forwards between the questions and answers 50 times I couldn't face reading any further.
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Post by censored on Nov 19, 2008 16:38:22 GMT
Crappogre though I don't buy the thing I do read bits and pieces a few days later as I get it as a hand me down from a relative. I like to monitor its bias. It is still up the establishments @rse.
I wouldn't vote for the person you mentioned. No way would she get £48k in the private sector. Isn't her dad Tim who used to work for CTV as a cameraman?
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Post by Bea on Nov 21, 2008 0:20:49 GMT
Crappogre though I don't buy the thing I do read bits and pieces a few days later as I get it as a hand me down from a relative. I like to monitor its bias. It is still up the establishments @rse. I wouldn't vote for the person you mentioned. No way would she get £48k in the private sector. Isn't her dad Tim who used to work for CTV as a cameraman? I wonder why the press bother even sending people to cover the hustings .Their finished articles rarely represent the true mood of the night. The skirting about of serious topics and questions asked of the candidates,and their responses are not fairly handled .
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Post by gagged on Nov 21, 2008 18:51:06 GMT
Was anything mentioned in the rag about Francis Le gresley saying he was bemused by the fact NONE of the St Helier No1 candidates had read the report from HLPR? Did they also mention that 6 out of the 7 candidates believed Senator Syvret and Simon Bellwood were completely vindicated by it, although none of them hade even read it!
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Post by Bea on Nov 22, 2008 13:53:19 GMT
Was anything mentioned in the rag about Francis Le gresley saying he was bemused by the fact NONE of the St Helier No1 candidates had read the report from HLPR? Did they also mention that 6 out of the 7 candidates believed Senator Syvret and Simon Bellwood were completely vindicated by it, although none of them hade even read it! Gagged, Hope you don't mind me correcting something here. I attended the hustings for St Helier no 1 district ,I believe F Le Gresley referred to the candidates who are standing in St Clement ,when he made a comment about non of them having read the Howard League report. Even though it is widely available on various internet sites in it's complete form .It is remarkable that they are not iformed of serious local political and social issues . I understand they are busy with electioneering ,but could have been the sort of question they might have been asked when door knocking. You are correct when you say no mention was made by the press of his comments,nor the fact that so many standing in these elections have not read the report .
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Post by gagged on Nov 22, 2008 19:18:31 GMT
Bea.
None of the St Helier No 1 candidates had read it and 1 of the St Clement candidates had, that was Jeremy Strickland. Truth be known a few more had read it but are able to sit on the fence a little easier if they say they haven't.
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Post by censored on Nov 22, 2008 19:45:39 GMT
I don't expect anything from the media I believe they are there to toe the establishment line. They have proved this over and over again by their biased reporting. It is ashame we have no neutral media over here. One good thing to come out of all of this though is the fact that more and more ordinary people are starting to see things for what they really are. It is only a matter of time before the majority will see too.
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Post by crappogre on Feb 2, 2009 10:08:53 GMT
Last week there was a Guess The Year competition in the JEP, a promotional item to generate revenue. The picture was of a local plane crash several decades ago. Can they really not see that it might possibly be bad taste to show a photo of the smouldering wreckage of a crashed aircraft for such purposes? Tacky and offensive, to say the least! (btw, anyone interested in such matters may find www.farvis.com/ventnor2.htm interesting - another crash - a Channel Airways flight from Jersey)
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Post by crappogre on Feb 6, 2009 14:00:24 GMT
I'll have a pop at BBC J now, **atty P in particular.
Do we have to 'benefit' from his personal opinions in the morning? Matthew, you may believe that elected politicians should 'just get on with it' but I disagree.
a) I think you abuse your position as a supposedly neutral BBC radio presenter by shoving such views down our ears when we're expecting you to bring us news and features. Keep your views to yourself unless they're amusing!
b) I believe you're wrong anyway. The island is crying out for politicians who listen and consult the public - especially if it's an alternative to yet another half a million wasted on commissioning a report (by UK consultants as usual).
I welcome any chance the public gets to air their views, and I find it distastefully right-wing and arrogant when the opposite happens (i.e. politicians who think they know better).
Sadly, consultations are often ignored (like petitions), but the principle is sound.
(digressing on the point of petitions, how come politicians are quick to quote petitions to suit their own agendas about the town park, but readily ignore petitions to suit the own agendas like GST, Waterfront Hotels, and flooding valleys!)
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Post by censored on Feb 6, 2009 16:24:16 GMT
The local BBC have shown by their ability not to report anything that makes the establishment look bad that they are pro-establishment as far as I am concerned. I listen to the World Service and Radio 4 they are much better as they get stuck in and aren't overwelmed when they come up against the establishment in the UK or overseas. They report on contencious issues, however this appears not to be part of the local BBC's remit for whatever reason. This has seriously undermined the local BBC's credibility in my eyes. I see them as a later day Radio Tirana.
The local presenters are not a patch on Radio 4, maybe they can't get any decent people to come over to Jersey as it is too insignificant back water?
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Post by revolution on Feb 6, 2009 18:14:47 GMT
I have stopped listening to Radio Jersey in the morning and now listen to 5 Live. Emma white stilettos urggggh Radio Jersey is boring and don't get me started on that extremely annoying man Philip Taylor. Makes me want to scream at the radio.
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Post by Bea on Feb 7, 2009 10:51:14 GMT
I have stopped listening to Radio Jersey in the morning and now listen to 5 Live. Emma white stilettos urggggh Radio Jersey is boring and don't get me started on that extremely annoying man Philip Taylor. Makes me want to scream at the radio. I could not put a voice to his name (Phil Taylor ),so tuned in this morning .and on whilst I,m typing this .I now realise who you mean . ;D Did he used to work at hospital radio ? Reminds me a bit of Smashy and Nicey.
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