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Post by ryanmorrison on Nov 5, 2008 10:42:03 GMT
LOL - just checking the forums while waiting for the article to publish.
It's all written and ready to go - I'd have loved to have come in and written the article as the nominations came in last night but my family comes first and I have a teething baby at home.
As I'm the only one trained and with rights to use the online publishing system (at the moment) it's down to me to get the article up - the first opportunity to do that was when I got in at 9am.
After a few technical problems with the publishing system (like crashing three times half way through writing the article) I've finally got it done and it will be going on the homepage in the next few minutes.
Keep an eye on bbc.co.uk/jersey/election08 for much more election coverage over the next few weeks.
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Post by ryanmorrison on Nov 5, 2008 10:47:18 GMT
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gagged
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Post by gagged on Nov 5, 2008 13:31:08 GMT
Is it just me or is Ryan somewhat selective as to which questions he will reply to? Have a look at page one of this thread Ryan if you're not sure what I'm talking about.
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Post by ryanmorrison on Nov 5, 2008 13:34:00 GMT
The only area I can really comment on is the website as that is the area I work on. For anything else your best bet would be to contact Matthew Price or bbc.co.uk/complaints.
I just responded to crappogre to explain why the Deputy candidates weren't up yet (as I was working on it at that moment).
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Post by censored on Nov 5, 2008 13:43:26 GMT
People in the media are told what they can and can't do. Ryan has to toe the line if he wants to keep his job. I would pose the following hypothetical question to him. If he knew certain things were 100% true would he publish a story if his superiors told him not to?
I personally think it would be better if none of the media bothered reporting on the elections until they have sufficient resources to do the job properly. The Senators elections were not reported in an impartial way. St.Helier was not broadcast which would have given a completely different spin on things if it had of been. I believe many would have been influenced to vote for the non-establishment figures on the strength of this. I therefore believe the media played their part in helping the establishment figures get back in.
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Post by gagged on Nov 5, 2008 14:20:59 GMT
I agree censored when you say "Ryan has to toe the line if he wants to keep his job. There was a point where he was regularly answering questions, but now the "party line" don't ask me! talk to Matthew Price or the complaints department! You volunteered yourself as spokesperson Ryan, when things get a bit tuff, all of a sudden you go quiet and then eventually come back with talk to Matthew Price!
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Post by crappogre on Nov 5, 2008 14:49:56 GMT
Thanks Ryan. St.Helier was not broadcast which would have given a completely different spin on things if it had been. I believe many would have been influenced to vote for the non-establishment figures on the strength of this. I really doubt enough people would have listened and changed their minds. I therefore believe the media played their part in helping the establishment figures get back in. The Brainwash Rag, certainly, but not comparatively low-audience TV & Radio. |
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Post by censored on Nov 5, 2008 17:48:42 GMT
The herd follows the flow, therefore if you affect the flow you affect the result. The media affects the flow therefore they affect the result.
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Post by nickpalmer on Nov 5, 2008 17:54:53 GMT
It's a big story gagged that would require a massive amount of research to firm up to a point it could be cleared for broadcast by the legal team - at least that is the way I personally understand it. Ryan, Stuart stated that the Police had issued a disclosure notice stating that the pinball wizard and another similar person were being investigated. How much research does it take for you to ask the police if this is true? A simple phone call maybe; a letter would definitely work... If you establish that this is true then you can wonder out loud with a clear conscience why the wizard's apprentice has not been suspended and what role ex-Senator Mike Vibert and his Department had in this. |
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Post by gagged on Nov 5, 2008 19:11:04 GMT
It's a big story gagged that would require a massive amount of research to firm up to a point it could be cleared for broadcast by the legal team - at least that is the way I personally understand it. Ryan, Stuart stated that the Police had issued a disclosure notice stating that the pinball wizard and another similar person were being investigated. How much research does it take for you to ask the police if this is true? A simple phone call maybe; a letter would definitely work... If you establish that this is true then you can wonder out loud with a clear conscience why the wizard's apprentice has not been suspended and what role ex-Senator Mike Vibert and his Department had in this. Well said Nick although it could have been put like why don't the local BBC journalists do what any self respecting journalist would do? Inform the public!, practice some journalism, investigate, take our politicians to task. I'll tell you what Ryan why don't you ask Matthew Price to come on here and answer the questions? That is of course if he's not busy spending the limited funds on booking Roger a flight to outer mongolia to report on a dung beatle race or something. |
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Post by censored on Nov 5, 2008 21:08:42 GMT
As I said before you can not be sued for reporting the truth. All the BBC have to do is make sure what Stuart has alleged is the truth then they can make it public. A very simple bit of journalism could achieve this. Why the hesitance to do this? Who gains from this state of affairs?
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Post by crappogre on Nov 5, 2008 22:36:14 GMT
Their social life and "good standing" gains.
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Post by linda on Nov 6, 2008 4:38:12 GMT
What we need is a Radio Caroline style station for Jersey News, lol, sorry Ryan but it is true.
I am sure if the BBC bothered to ask him Stuart would be more than happy to give you all the information and laws to cover there posteriors on all the things he reports on in his blog, have your bosses even considered doing this?
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Post by gagged on Nov 6, 2008 9:26:58 GMT
I suppose we must remember Ryan is growing a tash. That is bound to put a strain on funding and resources, although he did find the time to tell us about it on here. Any joy on getting Matthew Price to answer the questions Ryan?
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Post by ryanmorrison on Nov 6, 2008 11:50:52 GMT
I'm growing a tash for charity - has nothing to do with my job.
E-mail matthew.price@bbc.co.uk with any questions you might have. It isn't my place or my job to respond on the BBCs behalf - I was only ever commenting myself and not for the BBC or presenting the BBC - that job falls well above my grade.
I'm sure Matthew would be happy to hear from you - as I seem to have fallen into the roll of official spokesman (in some peoples eyes) even though I made it clear I was speaking for myself and not the BBC - it's probably best I stop contributing.
If anyone wants to talk to me off the message board you can e-mail ryan.morrison@bbc.co.uk
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Post by crappogre on Nov 6, 2008 13:08:00 GMT
Please feel free to keep commenting here personally Ryan. I'm sorry that you've born the brunt of some anti-BBC frustration-flak here due to you being the only person here with an obvious BBC connection.
I hope you will be gracious enough to see that it was inevitable and I hope you can see past that and continue to add any relevant comments and answers here. I for one would be sad to lose your input.
Cheers
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Post by gagged on Nov 6, 2008 13:18:30 GMT
Yeah don't go Ryan. I promise not to ask you any more questions that you're not allowed to answer. Do you think you could encourage Matthew Price to come on here to exhibit some openness and transparency on behalf of the BBC's editorial decisions?
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Post by censored on Nov 6, 2008 13:28:28 GMT
It would be good if you could get your bosses to look at this Ryan. It would be nice for someone in charge to respond to our concerns. There is no need for you to go the comments posted were not directed at you personally, it's just that people are fed up with things over here at present. They know what is going on but never see these things being reported on.
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Post by ryanmorrison on Nov 6, 2008 13:29:04 GMT
OK guys I'll hang around but will only contribute to posts not related to the BBC (or at least not asking questions about the BBC coverage).
I've asked Matthew and Denzil to come and contribute - they said it was something they are looking into and talking to the BBC Press Office about.
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Post by censored on Nov 6, 2008 13:31:36 GMT
No problem we understand your position.
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